tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4790396293521449566.post5081847589900384594..comments2023-10-02T11:36:45.006-04:00Comments on A Passionate and Determined Quest for Adequacy: Semi-Programmed IIAshley Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04767912859236943934noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4790396293521449566.post-71664912621615056212010-10-20T22:21:19.826-04:002010-10-20T22:21:19.826-04:00This post made me smile as I remembered the small ...This post made me smile as I remembered the small church (not Quaker) that I grew up in. Bad but heart-felt singing, poor, often wounded church-goers, a minister who had to keep his Monday - Friday job because we couldn't pay him enough to support his family -- it's all very familiar. Lots of convinced Quakers have scars from their upbringing in conservative Christian churches. I got a few bruises but they healed, and the warm memories of simple, loving, genuine people who cared for me and my family remains. I think I'd like Freedom Friends. :o)naturalmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15594383847916759287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4790396293521449566.post-52282649185838964672010-10-20T15:35:24.634-04:002010-10-20T15:35:24.634-04:00Blessings on you leading worship.
Thank you for t...Blessings on you leading worship.<br /><br />Thank you for the account of community at Freedom Friends. I am always grateful wnen we can see that of God within still means a lot can be messy.<br /><br />But what's wrong with rehearsing? Okay, I am a choir director's kid so I am biased, but in my experience it is never a terrible thing for people to learn songs or hymns as a community. In faxct, sometimes it's easier for new people to find their way and find their tune if more peole in a group already know the music.<br /><br />Okay, I am even the kind of person who, one time after observing unprogrammed worship over three days, all day in parallel with other things on the schedule, decided that there could even be something to be said for liturgy: liturgy CAN give space over time for a whole range of emotion and experiences that muddled out in unprogrammed worship. I expect that is WAY more Quaker heresy than you need just to lead worship, but blessing on you and the music both.RantWomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17611656459134372290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4790396293521449566.post-71602704159727036822010-10-20T00:39:53.304-04:002010-10-20T00:39:53.304-04:00Thanks Ashley, and Martin. I think FFC is "me...Thanks Ashley, and Martin. I think FFC is "messional" :)Aliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329295581168412157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4790396293521449566.post-16632977711408696232010-10-19T11:45:04.892-04:002010-10-19T11:45:04.892-04:00I think part of the interest is how Freedom Friend...I think part of the interest is how Freedom Friends is building a community "against the odds." There's no funding base, no institutional support; it's not funded by endowments or capital campaigns. The buzzword du jour among hip churchy types is "missional" and I think the fact that FF is poor, has members with disabilities and is sometimes "messy" is one of the marks that it's doing the real work of church in the world. <br /><br />It reminds me of my wife's Catholic Church, slated for closure. One of the criticisms of it is that it doesn't have a big budget. But one reason it doesn't is because members volunteer to do the work that wealthier churches hire out for. This can be messy sometimes but the music ministry, rosary garden, CCD program and spiritual commitment of the members is far stronger than I see almost anywhere else. <br /><br />Many of us dream of more grassroots, "missional," diverse and involved Friends communities. I pray they would all be a certain level of messy and involve a certain amount of struggle.Martin Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999620933648327663noreply@blogger.com